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Infinite

In philosophy, “infinite” refers to something that is absolutely without limit, like God for Descartes or Leibniz, while “indefinite” describes something without a limit that is recognizable or comprehensible to us, but might still have a hidden or structural limit. The key distinction is between a metaphysical, absolute non-finitude (infinite) and an epistemic, iterative, or incomprehensible non-finitude (indefinite).

Infinite

  • Definition: Absolutely unlimited in all respects, or a completed totality of infinitely many things.
  • Nature: Metaphysical and absolute. It is a positive, actual characteristic, not merely the absence of limits we can perceive.
  • Examples:
    • God: Descartes and Leibniz reserved the term “infinite” for God alone, the one being whose nature is to have no limits whatsoever.
    • Actual Infinity: In mathematics, actual infinity refers to a completed, definite set with infinitely many members, such as the set of all integers.

Indefinite

  • Definition: Lacking any recognized or conceivable limit, even though it may have limits that are unknown or incomprehensible to us.
  • Nature: Epistemic or structural. It can be an iterative process without end, such as the potential for endless division of a line, or simply something that is beyond our ability to grasp all its limits.
  • Examples:
    • The material world: Descartes argued the universe is indefinite because we cannot find a limit, but he did not assert there are absolutely no limits.
    • Potential Infinity: In contrast to actual infinity, potential infinity (or indefinite) is a process that can always be continued but is never completed, like counting numbers or dividing a line segment.

Key distinctions

FeatureInfiniteIndefinite
NatureMetaphysical, absolute, positiveEpistemic, structural, negative (lack of known limit)
LimitsTruly has no limitsHas limits, but they are not recognized by us
PerceptionComprehensible in some ways (e.g., mathematical models)Beyond full human comprehension
Key examplesGod, actual mathematical setsThe material universe, potential division

AI responses may include mistakes.

[1] https://www.academia.edu/20213750/The_Infinite_The_Indefinite_and_attitudes_towards_infinity_Leibniz_s_response_to_Descartes

[2] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09608788.2020.1818055

[3] https://philpapers.org/rec/SCHTOA-10

[4] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00751634.2024.2383545

[5] wikipedia/en/Actual_and_potential_infinityWikipedia

[6] https://medium.com/@timah/philosophy-and-mathematics-when-infinity-reveals-its-two-faces-1ddf1b4f62f7

[7] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/09608788.2020.1818055

[8] https://inters.org/infinity

[9] https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1883/don/appendix1.htm

[10] https://www.beyng.com/docs/Adorno-BeingExistence.html

[11] https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/finite-being